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Discussion on PZ Myers being expelled from Expelled

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This is a short clip from an upcoming discussion between PZ Myers and Richard Dawkins. I thought I should post the relevant piece about the film Expelled today. (Filmed and Edited by Josh Timonen) View more at: http://richarddawkins.net http://scienceblogs.com/pharyn...

Channel: Science & Technology
Uploaded: November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am
Author: richarddawkinsdotnet

Length: 09:30
Rating: 4.43
Views: 79420

Tags: Atheism  Ben  Dawkins  Design  Evolution  Expelled  Intelligent  Myers  PZ  Richard  Stein  

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Hochemon2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
We can find an approximate location where the big bang occured based on the way galaxies are spreading out current and they all trace back to a single point in space. Fusion in stars and their subsiquent supernovas are more than enough to explain where matter came from. before the big bang was a singularity. organic molecules have been found in outer space so it isn't entirely non-life in fact they can form in nature.
Hochemon2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Headhunters of Southeast Asia, also I would assume that you would believe many of the things like stoning that is often used in Islamic countries is wrong. What would be an absolute right or wrong? Morality can evolve because as our species became more and more dependent on group living to survive certian aspects of morality became more and more justified eg not killing that person lets you reproduce with his family and then you guys hunt together and have better success bringing in food.
shewey (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
It is absurd to believe that there is no God. There cannot be a natural explanation to life. Matter cannot create itself. Also, where was the big bang situated when it went off if everything came from it? What was there before the big bang? And did non-life give birth to life? How - if it cannot reproduce? You may ask me "where did God come from?" But that would be ignorance for it would show a complete lack of understanding concerning the nature of God. So please don't say it.
shewey (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
There is absolute right. There is absolute wrong. How could this evolve? Give me one example of a nation that does not believe in our sense of right and wrong. For the Big Bang, what was there before it? If everything was in a a small point, where was this point? This is more for others than for you specifically: It is absolutely ignorant to think that there is no God (not that you think this).
Hochemon2008 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Everybody does not feel the same way about right and wrong that is where you are mistaken. I am not going to pretend that I am an expert in the big bang there are plenty of people on youtube who can tell you more than I but the big bang was simply an expansion of space time, backed by a remarkable amount of evidence...It is is no way an attempt to discard God but simply an natural explination for the universe.
Jomina1 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Designer, and God, are two different things, and most true scientists will say that we do not know EITHER WAY, and that is THE POINT. Science does not know, nor can prove either way, and religions do know know nor can prove either way. And yet it is the religious that will not even allow that thought to enter their heads. They are 100% sure. Scientists will tell you that it cannot be 100% proven yet, so leave the door open. That's logical, and should be for both sides
McMonster65 (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
sure many historians have done this. how many AT THE TIME?
shewey (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
"people are basically good"? . . . What was this about my fairytale? What is "good" anyways? Who defines it? If we humans do, then why (as Freud points out) are our morals universal? Everybody seems to feel the same way about what is right and what is wrong. Is this not evidence of God? Also, where did time, space, and matter come from? They each had to come into existence at the same time. You want to hear fairytales? How about the Big Bang theory - a useless attempt to discard God.
shewey (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Firstly, I'm not sure of what you mean by Christian...If you mean someone who follows the word of God and believes in Jesus Christ, then you would be mistaken. But if you mean someone who pretends to follow it for personal gain, then I would appreciate you using a different word. I certainly wouldn't give you my permission to think that the Bible is worthless. And that idiotic rubbish you refer to - I believe it to be quite true. Perhaps you will be amazed one day.
Psalm121ofdavid (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I'm sorry but no it is not. You will need to do some real research before you tell me that i am telling "falsehoods". And before you say that the Bible is nonsense you will need to prove it as any real scientist would need to do. Through history, science and commin sence. And then tell me why hundreds of PH D's(who do not believe in the God of the Bible) are willing to lose thier jobs and titles that they so rightfully eaned over this belief that there is a Desighner.

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